The Kentucky-born actress told Vogue in a months-old interview published this week about how she fights over politics with her flyover family, railed about the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and divulged that her political awakening came courtesy of a sitcom. The unburdening came as Lawrence and interviewer Abby Aguirre got spa treatments, and included the revelation that Lawrence told her therapist she had nightmares about Carlson.
“I’m a little jealous,” Shapiro quipped on his daily podcast of “The Ben Shapiro Show,” as he skimmed through the article in the members-only hour of his show. “I’ll be honest with you, when Jennifer Lawrence is having nightmares about you, that’s kind of amazing. Like, good for Tucker. Seriously living, literally living rent free in Jennifer Lawrence’s head. That’s amazing stuff.”
After Lawrence and Aguirre got a treatment called “Korean body scrubs,” the subject turned to the baby she had in February with her husband, described in the interview as “the art gallerist Cooke Maroney.” Lawrence had brought her breast pump to the spa in what Aguirre celebrated as a selfless act of motherhood.
“I love all these pieces because they really are the most obnoxious people talking about the most obnoxious people, about the most obnoxious topics,” Shapiro said. “It’s incredible. It’s like an infinite, regress of obnoxiousness.”
After the spa treatment, the two repaired to an outdoor dining area to enjoy some white wine, which some breast-feeding mothers avoid. Lawrence warned her interviewer she was “in a mood.”
“Well, not a bad mood exactly, but a consistently emotional one brought on by the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe versus Wade a few days earlier,” Aguirre wrote. “Much of her disappointment was directed at certain relatives back in Louisville, Kentucky, where she’d grown up, including her father.”
Lawrence, complaining about her family’s differing world view, claimed that all people “have to be political. It’s too dire. “Politics are killing people.”
“Okay, so I’d like everybody to remember this,” Shapiro said. “Next time Jennifer Lawrence asks you to go to one of her movies. She hates your guts, okay? If you are on the other side of the political aisle, everything is political, every single thing. You can’t go to a movie to just enjoy a movie. It’s too dire, guys. You are too dire.”
Lawrence told Aguirre she had thought of herself as a Republican while growing up, but it all changed when she was 16 and saw an episode of the NBC show “30 Rock” and heard Tina Fey’s Liz Lemon character say something like, “I’m not a crazy liberal. I just think people should drive hybrid cars.”
That, Lawrence told Aguirre, is when she came of age politically and rejected her conservative family’s values.
“That is the way that I decide my politics,” Shapiro said, channeling Lawrence. “I watch written characters by Tina Fey on a sitcom. These are deep thoughts here from Jennifer Lawrence, who has nightmares about Tucker Carlson. She literally says that Liz Lemon on 30 Rock defined her politics.”